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yea well we owned your asses in New Orleans as revenge for that. and last time i checked you still never won in 1812 that makes it still 1-0 America. oh and in the text books it says the war started for America i guess you could say in 1941. but the war really started in 1931 (in a way at least).

p.s. Andrew Jackson kicked yo ass! Laughing
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you are correct yu, the war did start in a way in 1931 Wink

but one could say it started in 1918 Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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yea well we owned your asses in New Orleans as revenge for that. and last time i checked you still never won in 1812 that makes it still 1-0 America. oh and in the text books it says the war started for America i guess you could say in 1941. but the war really started in 1931 (in a way at least).

p.s. Andrew Jackson kicked yo ass! Laughing


haha i love amerian revisionist history.

Ok, when you say "the invasion of canada will be as easy as walking north"....when you state you are going to take something......And not only do you not take it...but by the end of the war enemy forces have taken vast sways of your land, and burned your capitol building to the ground..that you lost...

because the British/canadians, agreed to peace doesnt mean they lost. America lost, they attempted to invade not only did they get turned back but lost land...


Thats a lose....americans are so funny..
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Lol colonial britan rules but the slavery and oppression was wrong, and truthfully america is britains child, good night america britain says hello Laughing


WE aren NOT britains children..basta4d or not


O*UR settlers...are twofold...christians wlho belilieve


and those the world toys withh



alll i can say to that ..you don't know he truth or..will NOT accept
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my my you really can't take a little joke can't bear
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


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WE aren NOT britains children..basta4d or not

O*UR settlers...are twofold...christians wlho belilieve

and those the world toys withh

alll i can say to that ..you don't know he truth or..will NOT accept


You you saying the founding fathers were christians? vague belief in god istn christianity, the founding fathers were children of the englightenment and of English secularism, the reformation and the entire renaissance.

SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, the USA was founded on HUMANIST ideals, not on Christian.....

Not wanting to turn this into a religious debate, But Bearock have you actualy read the scriptures?

Let he who is a slave stay a slave? who said that again? or what about "do not think i come to bring peace on earth, i come to set brother against brother"
Fear isnt a valid tool of education, so im not sure why FEAR of the Lord is the beginging of wisdom, read Acts 5, to see the fear of the lord in action btw....
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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have you actualy read the scriptures?

seems to me....the beginning of wisdom and fearing the lord is like this
rebel...die
embrace...be blessed and receive everlasting life

as for the constiution......hmmmmmm

sorry...declaration of independence


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


First of all America started with the second world war in 1941
wikipedia:
World War II: Attack on Pearl Harbor - U.S. Ambassador to Japan Joseph C. Grew passes on to Washington a rumor overheard at a diplomatic reception about a planned surprise attack upon Pearl Harbor, Hawaii.

January 23 - Aviator Charles Lindbergh testifies before the U.S. Congress and recommends that the United States negotiate a neutrality pact with Adolf Hitler.

LAME

February 9 - Winston Churchill, in a worldwide broadcast, pleads with the U.S. to show its support by sending arms to the British: "Give us the tools, and we will finish the job."
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And no offence but america is crappy country to live in if ur not rich.
Seriously ur better off living in Europe and even better off living in Belgium ( in the dutch part that is , god I hate french :p).
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apparently but i can't confirm it i need someone in america or from there to confirm it for me
seems to me...we were taught it began with the invasion of poland

september of 39 if i remember correctly

officially for us dec 7 41 with pearl harbor...although we had been
suppling arms and boats to england

saw somone here said 1918...actually wwI was 1916 to 1919
interesting point tho

from the kaiser to hitler


oh....one more thing


WHO made britain...and france for that matter...a SUPERPOWER????

WE did....by giving you nuclear weapons

then russia stole it from us...and china from them

so...that's why you have the original 5 superpowers

but now israel...tho they will deny it
india and pakistan...North korea

but lookout world if iran gets it...cause then syria...lebanon or anybody else will have it and WWIII
better known as the end of the world....this time
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lol north korea??
we shut them down....
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lol north korea??
we shut them down....

just like ba'al in sga

don't be so sure....remember...they LIE their ass off!!!
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yes bear to a point world war 1 stopped "really" on june 28 1919 with the signing of the versaille treaty but they signed the armistice on november 11 1918 and this is when the fighting ceased, so it is widely accepted that this is the end of the world war 1

but enough of the history lesson Wink
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ahh i never got to talk about the incompitence of the frence, seriously throw a rock at them and even if you miss they surrender
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haha tru's not gonna be happy with your comment Razz
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bearock2 wrote:
HollowsRus wrote:
apparently but i can't confirm it i need someone in america or from there to confirm it for me
seems to me...we were taught it began with the invasion of poland

september of 39 if i remember correctly

officially for us dec 7 41 with pearl harbor...although we had been
suppling arms and boats to england

saw somone here said 1918...actually wwI was 1916 to 1919
interesting point tho

from the kaiser to hitler


oh....one more thing


WHO made britain...and france for that matter...a SUPERPOWER????

WE did....by giving you nuclear weapons

then russia stole it from us...and china from them

so...that's why you have the original 5 superpowers

but now israel...tho they will deny it
india and pakistan...North korea

but lookout world if iran gets it...cause then syria...lebanon or anybody else will have it and WWIII
better known as the end of the world....this time



..WOW nice revisionist history again.

1. creator doesnt mean christian god, Deism isnt christianity. Shall we see what the founding fathers said about religion?

2. YOU ARE A DELUSIONAL IF YOU THINK THAT THE USA CREATED BRITAIN AND FRANCE BY GIVING THEM THE NUKE.
Learn the history of the manhattan project please, before you spout of your American propaganda.....

and as for the fear of hte lord, as i said READ ACTS 5, then come back with your talk about peace and love and christianity.


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The Christian priesthood, finding the doctrines of Christ levelled to every understanding and too plain to need explanation, saw, in the mysticisms of Plato, materials with which they might build up an artificial system which might, from its indistinctness, admit everlasting controversy, give employment for their order, and introduce it to profit, power, and pre-eminence. The doctrines which flowed from the lips of Jesus himself are within the comprehension of a child; but thousands of volumes have not yet explained the Platonisms engrafted on them: and for this obvious reason that nonsense can never be explained." - Thomas Jefferson


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"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison



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I love history, real history instead of that revisionist stuff...
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i'm hopefully gonna do history in college i got an A* in my coursework it depends on my exam scores but i'm confident that i did well
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which uni u hoping to get into? i mean which ones your "first" choice Wink
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oh i'm probably gonna go to birmingham university because its closer to where i live but thats about two years in the future i'm focusing on my A levels and college
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